Email shoot out 2 with the Office Liberal

I am concerned about our office liberal(OL). I think that when he is confronted with the facts he has quit arguing. This is going to be no fun at all, when have facts ever stopped a liberal. You will see what I mean when I post the email exchange and then refer to the first E-mail shoot out blog.

I like to use the analogy of a cat playing with a mouse. In the end the mouse will be eaten and then all the mice that weren't eaten say "I wish he would have tryed that with me". When I get a Kool-aid drinking liberal, I like to toy with them. Every false statement that they make I will challenge and ask if they can provide any proof for these wild allegations (They never can). I have to give them a little bit of credit they do use third grade logic to get their points across. For example:




When PETA demostrates they alway put girls in the nude, what does being naked have to do with animal rights?? If you apply the 3rd grade logic it all makes perfect sense:


At this point we subsitute the MEAT + FIRE for the YOUNG NAKED FEMALE and score a huge victory for animal rights.

What they failed to do was include this part of the equation:


That's it most liberal think that you are a moron. Why a women standing outside in the cold holding a sign calling me a Cannibal is going to convince me not to eat meat baffles me. Oh well here is the email shoot out, he hasn't responded since this morning. If he does respond back I will post it.

Whipping Boy:

If Bush lied than How do you explain all these quotes:

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
John Kerry, January 23, 2003.

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement."
Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability."
Robert Byrd, October 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."
Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002.

"Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."
John Edwards, October 10, 2002.

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction."
John Edwards, October 10, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
John Rockefeller, October 10, 2002.

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation."
John Kerry, October 9, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
John F. Kerry, October 2002.

"There’s no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He’s had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn’t have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we."
Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002 .

"I share the administration’s goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction."
Dick Gephardt in September 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002.

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein’s regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed."
Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002.

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, 2002.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production."
Former UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter, in 1998.

"Saddam’s goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."
Madeline Albright, 1998.

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983"
National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998.
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
President Bill Clinton in 1998.

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people."
Tom Daschle in 1998.

Hey, thanks for the morning humor!

Btw, as impressive as cut n paste job this is, taking stuff out of context doesn't let Bush off the hook any more than ignoring Big Dick's war mongering soundbites. I mean really, Cheney's rants make the commentators below sound like the unAmerican pinko commie dogs the Veep says they are.

And how could you ignore Pat Robertson's quips, like the one blaming 9/11 on America's "immorality"? Oh dear . . .

Oh, didn't you hear about the big news yesterday? Dubya took the "blame" for this mess apparently. About 2,000 servicemen too late, but it's nice to see a Republican president actually admit responsibility (more or less) for making up the facts in order to achieve a political means.
Office Liberal

Whipping Boy:

If you have some quotes that belong to VP Chenney send them to me, I would be happy to see them. I like to be fair and balanced. Also, if these comments are taken out of context give me a link to the actual quote and I will look into it. Most of the quotes I have included below are complete statements and not bits a pieces of statements so I feel pretty confident about the context.
As for Pat Robertson's quip I don't I agree with and truthfully think that a man of God saying someone should be executed is disgraceful, I think that he should be more concerned with the log in his eye.
As far as the President accepting responsibility for the war, has he ever not accepted responsibility for the war? That's his job.You seemed to have taken that a bit out of context. He never said that this war wasn't justified, In fact he cited numerous Intelligence reports from nations that were against going to war and he cited violations of the No Fly Zone, which by the way make this war very legal. Those intelligence reports were incorrect, but when you have your CIA director (appointed by Clinton) telling you it's a "Slam Dunk",French Intelligence, the U.N., and British Intelligence also telling you the same thing you have to act on that Intelligence. You say it's a mess but most of the Military in polls tells a different story, as a matter of fact it is mainly just the Democrats saying this nonsense. We were in Japan for seven years before that government was stable and we are still in Bosnia. Where's your criticism of that mess, Slobodan Milosevic wasn't a threat to us. Here's a quote for you "My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision,". Here another quote for you "While you are allowed your opinion you are not allowed you own set of facts."


Whipping Boy: Hello, Hello are you there

OL: imagine the a faint voice repeating over and over "Bush is an idiot" between sobs and wimpering.

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